tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.comments2022-08-04T23:19:22.489+02:00StillSUDANMagdi El Gizoulihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-79245688069604755462022-08-04T23:19:22.489+02:002022-08-04T23:19:22.489+02:00ارسل لي احد الاصدقاء هذا المقال. للأسف لم استدرك خ...ارسل لي احد الاصدقاء هذا المقال. للأسف لم استدرك خلاصة الفكرة او المضمونAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-14354892787432834382022-06-29T21:52:41.072+02:002022-06-29T21:52:41.072+02:00هذه مقالة ثرية واتطلع لقراءة الاجزاء القادمةِ
لفت ...هذه مقالة ثرية واتطلع لقراءة الاجزاء القادمةِ<br />لفت نظري الاشارة لكوينزي وماركس اشار ايضا لكوينزي اخر فرنسي اقتصادي سابق للاقتصاد الكلاسيكي وهو صاحب الجداول وقد اهتم بوجه خاص بالاقتصاد الزراعي واشار له ماركس في مايدرج كالمجلد الرابع لراس المال وقد حرره واصدره انجلز تحت نظريات فائض القيمةAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-43730747616047875042022-06-27T04:38:42.177+02:002022-06-27T04:38:42.177+02:00وفي السودان كان المهدي محل احتفاء من الجنوبيين كما...وفي السودان كان المهدي محل احتفاء من الجنوبيين كما اورد ابوالقاسم حاج حمد، كانوا يرون فيه مخلصا دون أن يشاطروه ادعاءاته الدينية حتى. جردوه عن محموله الديني الصوفي الاسلامي فظهر كأفيون خالص منزوع الشوائب ومن ثم اعادوا انتاجه وفق غيبياتهم الدينية ليذود عنهم الام القهر والاستعباد.<br /><br />"هكذا تغنى أبناء الدينكا في جنوب السودان حين ظهر المهدي، قد تحولوا به الى داخل الغابة وتمثلوه داخل روحهم، وهكذا ولد المهدي هناك ابنا (لدينج):<br />انه المهدي ابن دينج<br />الذي من اجله سجدنا كالنمل على الارض<br />من اجل دينج ليكون لنا<br />واستحضرنا روح العشيرة لتصاحب دينج<br /><br />و (دينج): هو الروح القوية المسيطرة في مفهوميات الدينكا الدينية. منح الدينكا روحهم القوية لتصاحب المهدي وذلك من بعد عذاب دام ثماني سنوات عرفوا فيها ذل الاسترقاق على ايادي تجار سودانيين نيليين وعلى ايدي اوربيين واتراك. قد تمثلوا المهدي دينجا منقذا واستنفروا كل ارواحهم لتقف معه تماما كما يستنفر الصوفية الاولياء"<br />المجلد الاول ١٦٢، ١٦٣Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-13914455451234090252011-01-30T22:49:28.648+01:002011-01-30T22:49:28.648+01:00It would also seem as though the NCP is capitalis...It would also seem as though the NCP is capitalising on the timing of the protests, because they coincided with the declaration of the referendum results, they are brushing them off by insinuating that the protests are in response to the results, to the secession, rather than extreme frustration at the regime, although their aggressive immediate response was a dead give away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-6698876451222834402011-01-30T22:18:03.354+01:002011-01-30T22:18:03.354+01:00That was quick - and very interesting to hear. Tha...That was quick - and very interesting to hear. Thanks a lot.Toninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-8277032352713109912011-01-30T22:12:22.700+01:002011-01-30T22:12:22.700+01:00Not as far as I know. He was discredited by the NC...Not as far as I know. He was discredited by the NCP loyal media as a drunkard. And today's demonstrators, university students and young professionals, may not at all identify with him I fear.Magdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-62689172877597516822011-01-30T22:02:41.704+01:002011-01-30T22:02:41.704+01:00Hey Toni - I am not sure if we are about to witnes...Hey Toni - I am not sure if we are about to witness regime change in Khartoum. Contrary to Egypt and Tunisia my guess is that Bashir is ready to share power with the opposition parties provided that his position is safeguarded. If the opposition parties can negotiate their way into power they are unlikely to support urban protests that they have next to no control over. The students on the streets are as much fed up with the NCP's corruption as they are frustrated by the parties' incapacity and inconsistency. <br /><br />At some obscene level the traditional parties - Umma and DUP - just like the NCP are also threatened by an unpredictable Khartoum. <br /><br />I just posted a note on today's demos. <br /><br />bestMagdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-15562482609449340342011-01-30T21:08:30.036+01:002011-01-30T21:08:30.036+01:00Has al-Amin Musa's tragic death been picked up...Has al-Amin Musa's tragic death been picked up on by the protesters today? I can't see him referenced in the English-language press coming out at the moment, and my Arabic isn't good enough for the protesters' facebook page.Nickihttp://internallydisplaced.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-28769148905885855602011-01-30T19:21:49.287+01:002011-01-30T19:21:49.287+01:00Hi Magdi - my first post here, though I've bee...Hi Magdi - my first post here, though I've been following your excellent blog for a while. I'm intrigued by what's happening in Tunisia & Egypt right now and wonder what it might mean for post-referendum Khartoum... Sudan is covered so much worse by the usual media, so if you have any updates on today's demonstrations, I'd love about that.Toninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-12244610302941911952011-01-30T08:53:16.176+01:002011-01-30T08:53:16.176+01:00I conceed this is not the optimal time for revolut...I conceed this is not the optimal time for revolutionary attempts, but as I said before it is highly doubtful that anything of the sort will ensue. <br /> Ideally, what we want is to alert the government to our dissatisfaction and break through the state of reluctance that is gripping the nation. It's just a beginning, a foundation, if you please to build future resistance on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-81874543822770291062011-01-29T23:11:56.621+01:002011-01-29T23:11:56.621+01:00Thank you for the lively discussion. One point I a...Thank you for the lively discussion. One point I agree with totally is that the survival of Bashir's regime is more a symptom of his adversaries to create a credible alternative than a signal of intrinsic success. I do not agree however with the liberal notion of 'something must be done' and now. I think if anything politics must be rethought in Sudan. There is a lot of doing going on but without any serious thinking to support it.Magdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-88986107768300262892011-01-29T20:25:08.225+01:002011-01-29T20:25:08.225+01:00Thank you for responding to my post.
While I am h...Thank you for responding to my post.<br /><br />While I am hesitant to extend this debate without Dr El Gizouli's express consent, I am very curious to hear from you - what in your opinion is the "something" the youth of Sudan wish to be done? <br /><br />Thank you.Ahmednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-85071556494544373912011-01-29T20:04:43.904+01:002011-01-29T20:04:43.904+01:00The answer to that question in my opinion is yes a...The answer to that question in my opinion is yes and no. Yes I don't believe the results of the elections were manipulated. I think it was more fear of instability, of a new regime that will have power hungry empty pockets to fill, in addition to the evident weakness, inconsistency, apparent indecision and inadequacy of the opposing parties that steered the majority of the votes that led to the re-election of the NCP. <br /> As a youth who fully intends to participate in tomorrows peaceful protests, I would like to add that there is a risk, that is known and acknowledged, and as this is just the beginning there are doubts this protest will yield the same results it yielded in Tunisia and Egypt. As you said the NCP's response tomorrow will determine many things, however I still think it is due time for something to be done. We have to hope that the other parties do not attempt to claim the credit for our efforts tomorrow, although of course, they will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-63994151813876756562011-01-29T19:05:18.183+01:002011-01-29T19:05:18.183+01:00Political parties everywhere engage in political g...Political parties everywhere engage in political games to maintain their positions. <br /><br />But the manner in which Sudanese opposition parties are side-lined only serves to emphasis the dichotomy of their position. <br /><br />The self-attributed "consensus" label by the NCF seems to be a disingenuous attempt to serve the constituents they abandoned in 2010 elections and merely an attempt to remain relevant - by an ageing elite bent on satisfying their own megalomaniac fantasies.<br /><br />Into this vacuum of opposition steps an impatient over-educated and under-employed young generation fed up of corruption, increasing income inequality and dynastic opposition parties.<br /><br />The truly inspirational revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt are not an appropriate model for Sudan in its current fragile state. An overzealous youth are unlikely to heed this warning and the way the current administration responds to what seems to be a peaceful plea for reform will determine what the future holds. However, there is a real risk that upcoming protests will be mis-managed and then hijacked by a manipulative opposition.<br /><br />The real question for me is whether the will of the Sudanese people was reflected in the results of last year's elections? And if so, then why is the current administration pandering to the opposition instead of executing its mandate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-8575434389765977932011-01-23T18:53:57.029+01:002011-01-23T18:53:57.029+01:00I'm really interested in this confusion betwee...I'm really interested in this confusion between ethnic and territorial ideas of citizenship in Sudanese law, even since the 1890s aliens acts (and I'm trying to pull together a paper on this). The referendum law contradicts the New Sudan Nationality Act of 2003, which is very ethnic in its definition (even more so!) and the 2005-amended 1994 Nationality Act, which is specifically territorial.<br /><br />Mandour's idea of citizenship as a 'reward' for unity-minded NCP-leaning Southerners in the North fits with the branch of the NCP focused on putting out political and divisive statements on the split. It'll be very interesting to see whether there's the political will to establish a real, functioning SPLM-North, or whether it'll be allowed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-21819547522893173272011-01-22T17:34:02.078+01:002011-01-22T17:34:02.078+01:00This is an important issue, but 40 years after the...This is an important issue, but 40 years after the Addis Ababa Agreement there are other credible ways to measure government prformance and fairness than the tribe and sub-tribe of government officials.<br /><br />For example, Southern Sudanese can now monitor the allocation of government budgets to the States and Counties, the geographical distribution of facilities, the delays in the payment of teachers' salaries, infant mortality, and many other metrics.<br /><br />In addition there are many more opportunities for educated Southern <br />Sudanese than government jobs, particularly in the for-profit and non- profit private sectors with international and international organiztions. Moreover, many are starting their own organizations and businesses. The SPLM would be wise to treat them fairly and honestly.<br /><br />There are also many forms of private media from radio stations, newspapers, to websites and more advanced fora. These impact of theses media can be and will be amplified and informed by the impact of cell phones, e-mail, and satellite phones.<br /><br />The effendi no longer need to imagine the problems of their people. They can ask them. We need to help them and hope that they will listen to their elders and that as members of the "educated age set" they will not forget the obligations of all "age sets" to contribute to their communities and to learn how to lead and not just to argue and complain in a foreign language and not to assume that they are the leaders because they speak the loudest in this foreign language.<br /><br />They can help democracy work and survive in Sudan if they represent well before they expected to be asked to lead. They may be surprised that if they represent their own people well, many people will ask them to lead.Ed Resorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12494724210187282545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-55261214840293148472011-01-14T08:55:35.333+01:002011-01-14T08:55:35.333+01:00UNMIS' involvement with Ahmed Haroun is that o...UNMIS' involvement with Ahmed Haroun is that of engaging with the Governor of Southern Kordofan State. If the story is simply that the Wali of SKS traveled on a UN helicopter, no one bats an eyelid. And no, there is no other way for the Governor of SKS to have reached Abyei, especially not to accompany a delegation. <br />The bigger problem here is that Haroun was made Governor of SKS and as such the UN _has to_ engage him. It's not pretty, but as you point out, as long as there is a UN peacekeeping mission in the Sudan, the UN's role is to work with Government officials few of whom (N and S) have clean hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-90624816554389155792010-12-05T01:16:58.521+01:002010-12-05T01:16:58.521+01:00sorry I should have explained el-Fula is in oil fi...sorry I should have explained el-Fula is in oil field in Southern Kordofan.Magdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-67937896588844119272010-12-04T20:42:04.093+01:002010-12-04T20:42:04.093+01:00This is excellent... one question: Who is el-Fula?...This is excellent... one question: Who is el-Fula?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-36107140360161220372010-12-03T22:41:16.838+01:002010-12-03T22:41:16.838+01:00Thank you Ambrose for the encouraging remarks. You...Thank you Ambrose for the encouraging remarks. Your idea is good, but the NCP sands shift at will, a diagram like the one you suggest would be a snapshot in a quantum field. And no, I am not related to Gizouli Dafalla.Magdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-55693610710316558792010-12-01T01:04:34.058+01:002010-12-01T01:04:34.058+01:00Dear Dr. Magdi, Salam,
1nce again brilliant analy...Dear Dr. Magdi, Salam,<br /><br />1nce again brilliant analysis. Really wonder: would be great to have an organogram of inner-NCP relations, who is with who, who is up, who is down, who is in-laws with who etc. like the visuals of Mark Lombardi:<br />http://warmstreamsoflogic.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/lombardi.jpg<br />By the way: are you related to Dr. Gizouli Dafalla?<br />Best<br />Ambrose ChapelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-22590521499163530182010-11-22T18:41:48.544+01:002010-11-22T18:41:48.544+01:00Brilliant analysis and funny at the same time agai...Brilliant analysis and funny at the same time again, thanks a lot and please do keep up the good work! <br /><br />Best<br /><br />Ambrose ChapelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-54741350489700658442010-09-27T15:30:35.018+02:002010-09-27T15:30:35.018+02:00Dear Jamila,
your point on civic education is wel...Dear Jamila, <br />your point on civic education is well taken. I have my doubts though if expatriate NGOs and their elite clients are best suited to provide that education in 'English' to a rural population in Southern Sudan. <br /><br />State evolution is a concept I find hard to swallow. Features of African belly politics have more to do with the state than with Africa. Consider for example post WWII Italy or contemprary Italy for that matter, or even politics of the Ratman as Badiou likes to call Sarkozy. <br /><br />I dont think the 'disaster' stems from the practice of rights as citizens. I rather think the Southern Sudanese state cannot yet tolerate citizenry. It is the perpetuation of the subject that is disastrous. <br /><br />and thanks for your comments<br />hope to read from you again <br /><br />MagdiMagdi El Gizoulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15761996039834856021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-33369654755774586742010-09-26T06:37:11.807+02:002010-09-26T06:37:11.807+02:00Dr. El-Gizouli,
I concur with you that right to s...Dr. El-Gizouli,<br /><br />I concur with you that right to self-determination mustn't be denied. In fact, it must be inalienable to all humans, in individuality and collectivity alike.<br /><br />But "rights" entail obligations on the part of State as well as its citizens. The State is obligated with providing civic education to its citizens and citizens in turn are called onto practicing these "rights". <br /><br />The question that remains unanswered is the sequencing of these two components. What should come first? The provision of these "rights" that turn subjects to citizens or their application regardless of the rung the State occupies on the ladder of "state evolution"?<br /><br />Now, come January 9th, 2011, we will witness subjects (in Mamdani's terms) practicing citizens' rights. A disastrous scenario with ever more disastrous consequences if not in the short run, then on the long one.<br /><br />Jamila El-GizuliEl-Gizulihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05565773279708693755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3679369810161873324.post-52153467386889268122010-09-05T08:37:26.443+02:002010-09-05T08:37:26.443+02:00Dear Magdi,
Regarding your distaste for the way I...Dear Magdi,<br /><br />Regarding your distaste for the way I portrayed conflict between the Lou and Jikany Nuer, I can assure you that the purpose of my piece was not to gloss over the complexities inherent in Southern Sudan, nor to disillusion readers into thinking that the south is “confusingly resistant to reconciliation and peace” as you suggested. The meeting I described was arguably a good example of how the so-called “liberation elite of Southern Sudan” (in plain English, traditional leaders and local elites from the Lou and Jikany communities) continue to use ethnicity as a mode of political representation as they assert territorial rights, strategically contest administrative boundaries, and negotiate for the spoils of the semi-autonomous southern state. I do not personally find these contestations to be exotic and this was not the purpose of discussing this meeting. The quote from GoSS Vice President Machar was anecdotal and I accept that it did not contribute to understanding of the complex relations between these two communities. <br />However, I’d argue that I was quite clear that ongoing disputes over administrative boundaries (for example, Wanding) and the necessity of sharing scarce resources—both material and political—between the Jikany and Lou remain at the heart of the persistent tensions between these communities. I defer to you, Magdi, regarding the issue of how to refer to the Lou and Jikany; a friend working in Akobo County told me that “clan” was a more apt term than “section” or “sub-clan”—what do you think is most accurate? I regret that you mistook my interest in presenting some of the specific details of a single interaction between Lou and Jikany elites for an attempt to present a sensationalist, doomsday portrait of Southern Sudan. This was sincerely not my intention. <br /><br />Finally, I apologize for the confusion regarding my past affiliation with the Enough Project. I stopped working for Enough in mid-July, but have continued living in Juba and working as a freelance journalist. However, I failed to close my Twitter account, which I am now attempting to do; thank you for that reminder. There was a mistake in my bio line for a recent ForeignPolicy.com piece, which claimed that I still worked for Enough, which is not true, so I wanted to set the record straight here.<br /><br />I look forward to reading more insightful commentary and critique on this blog.<br /><br />Maggie FickMaggie Fickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103401741517293324noreply@blogger.com